HUSBAND..(full name ): LUPP, Johan Jacob (farmer of Langenbach, Germany) BORN.....(date/place): 1666 prob. Fehl, Hesse-Nassau, Germany CHR......(date/place): MAR......(date/place): 1694 Bad Marienberg, Hesse-Nassau, Germany DIED.....(date/place): 15 NOV 1732 Langenbach, Hesse-Nassau, Germany BUR......(date/place): HUSBAND'S FATHER.....: LUPP, Sebastian Compiled by: HUSBAND'S MOTHER.....: MULLER, Gertrude Victor L. Bennison HUSBAND'S OTHER WIVES: (2) SCHMID, Anna Catherina 2 Georgetown Drive ---------------------------------------------------------- Amherst, NH 03031 WIFE.....(full name ): (1) ROSS, Anna Elizabeth BORN.....(date/place): CHR......(date/place): DIED.....(date/place): 5 APR 1716 Langenbach, Hesse-Nassau, Germany BUR......(date/place): WIFE'S FATHER........: ROSS, Claus WIFE'S MOTHER........: ______, Gertrude WIFE'S OTHER HUSBANDS: FILE: TOBAJA.FGSV ----+-------------------------+---------------+--------------------------------+ # / | CHILDREN | WHEN | WHERE OR TO WHOM | SEX | surname / given names | | town, county, state or country | ----+-------------------------+---------------+--------------------------------| 1. | LUPP, Johann Christian |b. 1695 | Langenbach, Hesse-Nassau, Ger. | M | |m. | FILGER, Anna Maria | | |d. after 1747 | prob. NY | ----+-------------------------+---------------+--------------------------------+ 2. | LUPP, Anna Maria |b. 1697 | Langenbach, Hesse-Nassau, Ger. | F | |m. | | | |d. 1699 | | ----+-------------------------+---------------+--------------------------------+ 3. | LUPP, Johan Gerlach |b. 1699 | Langenbach, Hesse-Nassau, Ger. | M | |m. FEB 1723 | KEMPEL, Anna Veronica | | |d. | prob. NJ | ----+-------------------------+---------------+--------------------------------+ 4. | LUPP, Anna Maria |b. 1701 | Langenbach, Hesse-Nassau, Ger. | M | |m. 23 JUN 1737 | JUNGBLUT, Joh. Philipp | | |d. | | ----+-------------------------+---------------+--------------------------------+ 5. | LUPP, Elizabeth |b. 1703 | Langenbach, Hesse-Nassau, Ger. | F | Catherina |m. 15 NOV 1723 | SCHMID, Martin | | |d. | | ----+-------------------------+---------------+--------------------------------+ 6. | LUPP, Anna |b. 28 MAY 1704 | Langenbach, Hesse-Nassau, Ger. | F | |m. | | | |d. 21 JUL 1704 | | ----+-------------------------+---------------+--------------------------------+ 7. | LUPP, Anna |b. 1705 | Langenbach, Hesse-Nassau, Ger. | F | |m. | | | |d. 23 DEC 1705 | | ----+-------------------------+---------------+--------------------------------+ 8. | LUPP, Elisabeth Maria |b. 24 ___ 1708 | Langenbach, Hesse-Nassau, Ger. | F | |m. 29 APR 1733 | SEILER, Johan Tonges (Anthony) | | |d. | | ----+-------------------------+---------------+--------------------------------+ 9. | LUPP, ______ |c. 17 JAN 1709 | Langenbach, Hesse-Nassau, Ger. | F | |m. | | | |d. 24 MAY 1710 | | ----+-------------------------+---------------+--------------------------------+ ----+-------------------------+---------------+--------------------------------+ 10. | LUPP, Anna Barbara |c. 17 JUN 1711 | Langenbach, Hesse-Nassau, Ger. | F | |m. | | | |d. 24 MAY 1713 | | ----+-------------------------+---------------+--------------------------------+ 12. | LUPP, Anna Catharina |b. 1714 | Langenbach, Hesse-Nassau, Ger. | F | |m. 21 OCT 1742 | MENG, Johann Henrich | | |d. | | ----+-------------------------+---------------+--------------------------------+ 13. | LUPP, Anna Gertrude |b. 31 MAR 1716 | Langenbach, Hesse_Nassau, Ger. | F | |m. | | | |d. 9 SEP 1720 | | ----+-------------------------+---------------+--------------------------------+ WIFE.....(full name ): (2) SCHMID, Anna Catherina BORN.....(date/place): CHR......(date/place): MAR......(date/place): 17 JUL 1717 DIED.....(date/place): 12 DEC 1750 Livingston, Columbia, NY ? BUR......(date/place): 14 DEC 1750 WIFE'S FATHER........: SCHMID, Christian WIFE'S MOTHER........: ----+-------------------------+---------------+--------------------------------+ 13. | LUPP, Anna Elizabeth |b. 19 FEB 1717 | Langenbach, Hesse-Nassau, Germ.| F | |m. 12 May 1737 | COOPER, Johan Martin | | |d. | prob. NY | ----+-------------------------+---------------+--------------------------------+ 14. | LUPP, Anna Catharina |b. 26 JAN 1720 | Langenbach, Hesse-Nassau, Germ.| F | |m. | | | |d. 21 OCT 1736 | Langenbach, Hesse-Nassau, Germ.| ----+-------------------------+---------------+--------------------------------+ 15. | LUPP, Joh. Martin |b. JAN 1723 | Langenbach, Hesse-Nassau, Germ.| M | |m. | MINKLER, Anna Maria | | |d. 13 FEB 1786 | NY | ----+-------------------------+---------------+--------------------------------+ 16. | LUPP, Joh. Sebastian |c. 1728 | Langenbach, Hesse-Nassau, Germ.| M | |m. | MINKLER, Anna Margaret | | |d. | NY | ----+-------------------------+---------------+--------------------------------+ NOTES: Some German information is from a sheet drawn by Helmut Teibach, sent to me by Ross Roby. Elsa Catherina's husband Martin Schmid is shown as the son of Christian Schmid (born Schonberg ("o" with umlaut and the "n" may be an "a") and died Hadama). Apparently Christian Schmid is also the father of Jacob's second wife. The connection between this family and the brothers Sebastian and Martin in Columbia County, NY, is not based on concrete evidence, but on strong circumstantial evidence. (1) They are brothers. (2) No death date or place in Germany has been found yet. (3) They were born about the right time, Martin is two years older than his wife Anna Maria Minkler. (4) Martin and Sebastian's parents were Jacob and Catherine. Maria and Margaret Minkler's parents were Josiah and Gertrude. Then note that Martin's first three children were named Jacob, Gertrude, and Catherine. And that Sebastian's first five children were named Josiah, Jacob, Elisabeth, Jacob, and Gertrude. (5) Jacob also had a son Johan Christian Lupp who married an Anna Maria and is probably Christian Lupp, father of Capt. Peter Loop. Bad Marienberg Evengelical Reformed Church records: 1695 get. Dom 21.p.trin. Jacob Lupp and Elisabeth, married couple of Langenbach, a young son christened. Godparents: Johannes, Sebastian Lupp's son from Pfuhl, and Zirbes [?] Cuyh's [?] housewife Eva from DreyBbach. 1697 get. 1 past Epiph. Jacob Lupp and Anna Elisabeth, married couple of Langenbach, a young daughter christened. Godparents: Johan Diedrich Kolb's daughter Anna Maria from Marienberg and Hans Gerhart Webern [probably named Anna Maria, from order of godparents] 1699 get. Dom Reminise, Jacob Lupp and Anna Elisabeth married couple of Langenbach, a young son christened. Godparents: Gerlach Gro of Bach, and Eliza daughter of Jan ReideB??? (deceased) [possible named Gerlach after godfather] 1701 get. Dom Palm, Jacob Lupp and Anna Elisabeth married couple of Langenbach a young daughter christened. Godparents: Christoffel Lupp, Sebastian Lupp's son from Pfuhl and Johannes Steup's housewife from Illfurth [Anna Maria] 1703 2.p.Epiph.1703, Jacob Lupp and ..... a married couple from Langenbach, A young daughter christened. Godparents: Martin Rickaß's wife [Elsa] from Stockhausen and Christina Maria Zurbach. 1704 28 May, Jacob Lupp and Anna Elisabeth married couple of Langenbach, a young daughter christened. Godparents: Martin Clas and Anna, daughter of Joh. Jost Zehrung [?] (deceased) of ?? 1705 Dom.17.p.trin, Jacob Lup and Anna Elisabeth married couple of Langenbach, a young daughter christened. Godparents: Christian Lup of Ylfert and Tonges [Anthony] Diedert's housewife [Anna] from Langenbach. 1708 Jan. [?], Langenbach, Jacob Lupp and Anna Elisabeth his wife, daughter Elisabeth Maria. Godparents: Anna Maria, Theis [Mathew] Lupp's daughter from Hoff and A??? Schall [?]: Anna Elisabeth Ross [?] Schmid's from Holst Lindorf [?] 1709 17 Jan, Langenbach, Jacob Lupp and Anna Elisabeth his wife, daughter Elisabeth Maria. Godparents: Joh. Heinrich Ross, son of Heinrich (deceased?) ??? Joh. ???? wife Maria, Martin Hopfman's wife?? 1711 17 June, Langenbach, Jacob Lupp, Anna Elisabeth his wife, daughter Anna Barbara. Godparents: Anna Barbara, Johannes Lupp's wife [?] from Marienberg and Hans Gerhard Baum. 1714 Dom Rogate?, [between Feb and Apr] Langenbach, Jacob Lupp and Anna Elisabeth his wife, a daughter Anna Catherina. Godparents: Joh. Wilhelm Lupp of Niederrosbach and Anna Catherina, daughter of Christian Schmid (deceased?). 1716 31 March, Langenbach, Jacob Lupp and Anna Elisabeth his wife, a daughter Anna Gertraut. Godparents: Johannes AuchloB son from ? and Anna Gertraut, Johannes Crum's ??? 1717 19 Febr, Langenbach, Jacob Lupp and Anna Catherina Schmidin [?], a daughter Anna Elisabeth. Godparents: Barnhard [?] Clas from Langenbach, Anna Elisabeth, Christian Crum's daughter from Stockhausen. Came for religious instruction 20 Jan 1731. 1720 26 Jan, Langenbach, Jacob Lupp and Anna Catherina his wife, daughter Anna Catherina. Godparents: Jonas Lindorf, Jean [?] Lindorf's son from Langenbach and Catherina, Sebastian Schmid's daughter of Hardt [?]. 1723 Dom.2.p.?? [January] Langenbach, Jacob Lupp, Anna Catharina his wife, son Johan Martin. Godparents: Martin Schmid, son of Christian Schmid (deceased) of Hohn-Schonberg and Catherina, Hans Gerhard Baum's wife from Langenbach. Came for religious instruction 5 Jan 1737. 1728 Dom.1.p.Epiph, Langenbach, Jacob Lupp and Anna Catherina his wife, a son Joh. Sebastian. Godparents: Johan Sebastian, Martin Weber's [?] son and Anna Barbara, Joh. Gerhard ???? wife, ???? from Langenbach. 1728 23 December, Langenbach, Joh. Christian Lupp, Anna Maria his wife, daughter Catherine. Godparents: Catherine, Peter Filger's wife from GroBseifen [?], and Johannes, son of Martin ??claB (deceased) of Stockhausen. 1732 Dom.4.Adv, Langenbach, Joh. Christian Lupp and Anna Maria his wife, son Joh. Peter born 12 December. Godparents: Joh. Peter Har???? son of ???? ????, and Anna Elisabeth, Johan Heinrich Clas?? wife from Langenbach. 1734 Dom.15.Trin, 3 Oct., Langenbach, Joh. Christian Lupp, Anna Maria his wife, a daughter Elisabeth Maria born 22 September. Godparents: Johan Christian, Hans Gerhard Crumm's son from Langenbach and Elisabeth Maria, daughter of Johannes Lupp (deceased) of Marienberg. 1734 Dom.??? Eichenstruth, Anna Elisabeth, Christian Lupp's daughter, an illegimate son Joh. Christian, whose father is Joh. Martin Uhr, son of Joh. Tonges Uhr (deceased) of Stockhausen. The father will bring up the child. Godparents: Joh. Christian Lupp from Langenbach, and Anna Catherina, Andrew Bush's [?] wife from GroBseifen [?]. Came for religious instruction 15 June 1748. [Note: Christian Lupp of Eichenstruth and Joh. Christian Lupp of Langenbach are not the same person.] 1737 Dom Jubil, 12 May, Joh. Christian Lupp and Anna Maria his wife, a son Johannes born 1 May. Godparents: Johannes Ehl of Kirburg and Anna Elisabeth, daughter of Joh. Jacob Lupp (deceased) of Langenbach. [note: A family group sheet of Janet Loop's lists son John Loop, son of Christian as born in 1737. Don't know what the source is.] 1748 Dom.19.Trin, Langenbach, Philipp Jungblut and Anna Maria his wife, a son Johan Wilhelm. Godparents: Joh. Wilhelm Lupp of Neiderrosbach and Anna Maria ??? ??? Marriages: 1694 Dom.13.p.Trin Jacob Lupp, Sebastian Lupp's legitimate son from Pfuhl and Anna Elisabeth, legitimate daughter of Claus Ross (deceased) from Langenbach. 1717 Dom.5.trin, 11 July, Jacob Lupp, widower from Langenbach married Anna Catherina, daughter of Christian Schmid (deceased) of ????. 1723 Dom.sexag, Feb, Joh. Gerlach Lupp, legitimate son of Jacob Lupp of Langenbach, married Anna Veronica, Christian Horngel's [?] legimate daughter from ??? 1723 Dom.19, 15 Nov, Martin Schmid, son of Christian Schmid (deceased) of ???, married Elisabeth Catherina, Jacob Lupp's daughter of Langenbach. 1733 Dom.18.Trin, 29 Apr? Johann Tonges Sailor, legitimate son of Hans Sailor (deceased?) of Stangenrod, married to Elisabeth Maria, legitimate daughter of Jacob Lupp (deceased) of Langenbach. 1734 27 Jun, Joh. Martin Uhr, son of Tonges ????, married Anna Elisabeth, Christian Lupp's daughter from Eichenstruth. [see birth of their illegitimate child, same year] 1737 Dom.1.p.Trin, 23 Jun, Johan Philipp Jungblut, Joh. Heinrich Jungblut's legitimate son, married Anna [Anna Maria, see birth of son in 1748], legitimate daughter of Jacob Lupp's (deceased) of Langenbach. 1742 Dom.22.trin, 21 Oct, Joh. Heinrich Meng [?], widower from Bolsberg married Anna Catherina, daughter of Joh. Jacob Lupp (deceased) of Langenbach. Deaths: 1699 12 Sep, a child of Jacob Lupp of Langenbach buried. 1702 Sebastian Lupp from Pfuhl buried. 1704 21 July, a child of Jacob Lupp of Langenbach buried. 1704 23 Dec, a child of Jacob Lupp of Langenbach buried. 1710 24 May, Langenbach, Jacob Lupp's child buried. 1713 10 May, Langenbach, Jacob Lupp's child buried. 1716 5 Apr, Langenbach, Anna Elisabeth, Jacob Lupp's housewife. 1720 9 Sep, Langenbach, Jacob Lupp's young daughter. 1732 15 Nov, Langenbach, Jacob Lupp 1737 21 Oct, Langenbach, Anna Catherina, youngest daughter of Jacob Lupp (deceased) See the bible records on Martin Loop's family group sheet (MA.FGSV) It records the death of "Mother" on 12 DEC 1750, though it isn't exactly clear who she is. It could be his wife's mother. 1711 Beilstein Census: Langenbach Jacob Lupp, farmer age 45 schlecht im Vermogen [poor in possessions?] Johann Christ age 16 single Additions and corrections are welcomed in my family's data below. Thanks, Jan * 1st generation 1) Johann Jacob LUPP or LOOP b. ca 1667 in Germany, m. 1717 Anna or Anne Catharina SCHMIDT or SMITH, and he d. 15 Nov. 1732 in Germany. * 2nd generation 1) Anna Elizabeth LUPP or LOOP b. 1717 Lagenbach, Germany, m. 12 May 1737 Johann [John] Martin KUPER [COOPER] b. 23 April 1708 of Fuerichenhaim, Germany and later of Rhinebeck, Dutchess Co., New York, etc. 2) Anna LUPP or LOOP, 3) Catharina LUPP or LOOP, 4) Johann Martin LUPP or LOOP, and 5) Johann Sebastian LUPP or LOOP.