HUSBAND..(full name ): LOOP, Peter H. BORN.....(date/place): 7 AUG 1767 Schaghticoke, Rensselaer, NY CHR......(date/place): 21 OCT 1767 Schaghticoke, Rensselaer, NY MAR......(date/place): 1790 Schoharie, Schoharie, NY DIED.....(date/place): 9 JUN 1855 Woodville, Sandusky, OH BUR......(date/place): Woodville, Sandusky, OH HUSBAND'S FATHER.....: LOOP, Hendrick (Ens.) Compiled by: HUSBAND'S MOTHER.....: SCHERP, Nelly Eleanor Victor L. Bennison HUSBAND'S OTHER WIVES: 2 Georgetown Drive ---------------------------------------------------------- Amherst, NH 03031 WIFE.....(full name ): GILBERT, Rebecca BORN.....(date/place): 1772 CHR......(date/place): DIED.....(date/place): 9 APR 1841 BUR......(date/place): Perrysburg, Wood, OH, or Woodville, Sandusky, OH WIFE'S FATHER........: WIFE'S MOTHER........: WIFE'S OTHER HUSBANDS: FILE: HEPE.FGSV ----+-------------------------+---------------+--------------------------------+ # / | CHILDREN | WHEN | WHERE OR TO WHOM | SEX | surname / given names | | town, county, state or country | ----+-------------------------+---------------+--------------------------------| 1. | LOOP, Jacob |b. 18 SEP 1792 | Hadley, Saratoga, NY | M | |m. 15 FEB 1815 | (1) FROST, Nancy | | |m. | (2) CARY, Sophia | | |m. | (3) VAN HELEN, Mary | | |d. 2 DEC 1876 | Bennington, Shiawassee, MI | ----+-------------------------+---------------+--------------------------------+ 2. | LOOP, Henry |b. about 1793 | NY | M | |m. 1814 | (1) MARSH, Elizabeth | | |m. 8 NOV 1855 | (2) POOL, Elizabeth | | |d. 1867 | Kokomo, Howard, IN | ----+-------------------------+---------------+--------------------------------+ 3. | LOOP, Jediah |b. 20 APR 1796 | NY | M | |m. DEC 1823 | BENJAMIN, Betsy E. | | |d. 1 JUN 1854 | bur. Woodville, Sandusky, OH | ----+-------------------------+---------------+--------------------------------+ 4. | LOOP, James |b. about 1796 | NY | M | |m. | | | |d. 1828/30 | Perrysburg, Wood, OH | ----+-------------------------+---------------+--------------------------------+ 5. | LOOP, John |b. about 1800 | NY | M | |m. 8 DEC 1825 | ABBOTT, Sally Nicholls | | |d. | | ----+-------------------------+---------------+--------------------------------+ 6. | LOOP, Amos |b. 21 JUL 1802 | NY | M | |m. 25 NOV 1827 | PECK, Cynthia in Ontario, NY | | |d. 14 MAR 1844 | Niles, Berrien, MI | ----+-------------------------+---------------+--------------------------------+ 7. | LOOP, Christiana |b. about 1803 | NY | F | |m. 19 NOV 1839 | MARTIN, Henry | | |d. | | ----+-------------------------+---------------+--------------------------------+ 8. | LOOP, Peter |b. 1805 | NY | M | |m. 29 NOV 1836 | McDOWELL, Mary | | |d. 28 AUG 1885 | ______, Delaware, OH | ----+-------------------------+---------------+--------------------------------+ 9. | LOOP, Laney Ann |b. OCT 1808 | NY | F | |m. 2 JUN 1832 | DECKER, Moses in Perrysburg | | |d. 10 FEB 1851 | near Perrysburg, Wood, OH | ----+-------------------------+---------------+--------------------------------+ ----+-------------------------+---------------+--------------------------------+ 10. | LOOP, Phillip G. |b. 1809 | NY | M | |m. 19 NOV 1837 | ALLEN, Abigail M.J. | | |d. 23 DEC 1893 | Walbridge, Wood, OH | ----+-------------------------+---------------+--------------------------------| 11. | LOOP, William |b. about 1811 | NY | M | |m. 25 OCT 1834 | VAN ALLEN, Mary A. | | |d. 2 APR 1849 | | ----+-------------------------+---------------+--------------------------------+ 12. | LOOP, Betsy Maria |b. 13 MAR 1813 | Schoharie, Schoharie, NY | F | |m. OCT 1840 | BRIM, George | | |d. 12 MAR 1895 | Woodville, Sandusky, OH | ----+-------------------------+---------------+--------------------------------+ 13. | LOOP, Samuel |b. 1815 | NY | M | |m. 14 JUL 1839 | HARNS, Emma | | |d. 12 AUG 1864 | bur. Adrian, Lenawee, MI | ----+-------------------------+---------------+--------------------------------+ 14. | LOOP, Rebecca |b. 18 OCT 1818 | | F | |m. 7 AUG 1836 | EWING, Anthony | | |d. 22 JAN 1850 | bur. Perrysburg, Wood, OH | ----+-------------------------+---------------+--------------------------------+ NOTES: This information is from notes of Omer Loop as sent to me by Joanne Ellis and from a correspondence from her based on her research, from which is excerpted [notes in brackets are from Omer's info]: 1. Jacob Loop - I've obtained death record info from Shiawassee Co., MI -- Jacatt Loop died 2 Dec. 1876, male, married, 84 yrs 3 mo, at Bennington of old age, born NY, occupation farmer, parents - Peter Loop, mother not given, residence Ohio. 2. Henry Loop - he is supposed to be Omer's ancestor. [Elizabeth Marsh b nr 1784, NY, d nr 1850 nr Kokomo, Ind.] 3. Jediah Loop - His tombstone in the Old Woodville Cemetery in Sandusky Co., OH has died June 1, 1854 age 58-1-15. Next to this this is: Betsy E. wife of Jediah Loop died Jan. 19, 1876 age 75-3-7. On same lot is: Peter Loop Jr. Pvt NY Militia Rev War 1766-1855. Family history says Jediah was a mason. He helped to bury two men who died with cholera and he died with same thing the next morning. 4. James Loop - from Omer's info he died diving in the Maumee River which means his death date was ca 1828-1830. Peter H. moved his family from NY to Clermont Co OH shortly after the War of 1812, then on to Wood Co OH ca 1828. He didn't seem to be on 1830 census of Wood Co OH with his father Peter. 5. John Loop - apparently lived near Cincinnati, OH 6. Christiana Loop - joined the Mormons and went West, according to Omer's info. 7. Amos Loop - he is listed on 1840 MI census Berrien Co, Niles Twp, but apparently died before 1850 census. I may have found his wife, remarried, with a couple of the Loop children still with her, but don't know yet if this is correct. 8. Peter Loop - apparently lived in Delaware Co OH [Mary McDowell b 1818, Pa., living 1870, Delaware Co. O.] 9. Laney Loop Decker - lived in Wood Co OH [Moses Decker b May 6, 1807, d Apr 27, 1880] 10. Phillip Loop - lived in Walbridge, Lake Twp, Wood Co OH. I found his death date as 23 Dec. 1893. 11. William Loop settled in Independence Twp, Oakland Co MI and apparently died before 1850 census. 12. Betsy Loop - married George Brim and both are buried in the Old Woodville Cemetery, Sandusky Co OH. They were my gr gr grandparents. [George Brim b Sep 20, 1807, d Dec 7, 1873] 13. Samuel Loop - lived in Adrian, Lenawee Co MI. The 1850 MI Lenawee Co Adrian Twp census lists: Olive b 1842, Martin b 1843, Matilda b 1847. He was Lenawee Co MI's last Civil War veteran and the oldest one left in MI. 14. Rebecca Loop's three children were: Henry b ca 1838, Sarah b ca 1842, Samuel b ca 1846. Letter from Candice V. Kramer to Melba Wickes gives birthdate for Betsy (Loop) Brim. Wills of Oakland County, Michigan: Laura Gardner lists daughter Maria Loop, 11 NOV 1848, property in Novi. William Loop, intestate, filed 21 April 1849, died 2 April 1849. Heirs: Mary Loop, widow, seven children, six living with widow, oldest 13, youngest 2. Property in Independence Twp. Adminstrators: Jacob Loop, Jacob Loop Jr., Mary Loop From "Historical Atlas of Sandusky County, Ohio", 1874: On October 1, 1840, he [George Brim] was married to Miss Betsy M. Loop, a native of New York State. When she was quite young her parents came to Ohio, and after spending a number of years in the counties of Clermont and Wood, finally located in Woodville Township, Sandusky County. Mrs. Loop died April 9, 1841 at the age of sixty-eight, and Mr. Loop on the 9th of June 1855 in the eighty-eighth year of his age. Letter from Melba Wickes: I have searched for Amos all these years and have been unable to find where in New York he lived. His oldest child, Ann (my husbands's great grandmother) according to the family was born "On the shores of Lake Ontario" in New York. I have read almost all the 1830 census records for New York (all those bordering Lake Ontario) and failed to find Amos. Ann was born 1828/9... From 10,000 Vital Records of Western New York, by Fred Q. Bowman: 5409 Loop, Amos m Cynthia Peck in Ontario, Wayne Co. (3-12/26/27) [i.e., in the Geneva Gazette of 26 DEC 1827] From The Wayne Sentinel, Palmyra, NY, Dec. 7, 1828 [Melba Wickes found this on LDS microfilm also containing Wayne County Cemetery records]: Married - In Ontario on Sunday the 25th ult., Mr. Amos Loop, formerly of Mentz, Cayuga Co., to Miss Cynthia Peck. 1850 Mortality Schedule: Elizabeth Loop, d. Howard County, IN, age 60, died April of Paralicy. Letter from Joanne Ellis: I did find in a book of Clermont Co., OH, marriages a John Loop married to Sally N. Abbott on 8 Dec. 1825. This would be the right time period but I don't know if it is the right John. Biographical and Genealogical History of Cass, Miami, Howard, and Tipton Counties, Indiana, Vol II, 1898, page 707: Joseph Marsh Loop ... Mr. Loop was born October 26, 1818, near Batavia, Clermont County, Ohio, son of Henry and Elizabeth (Marsh) Loop. ... Peter Loop, the grandfather of our subject, was a New Yorker by birth. He was a soldier in the war of 1812, and his remains are buried at Fort Meigs; his age at death was eighty-two years. His children were William, Jacob, Henry, Peter, and Rebecca. Family group sheet from Joanne Ellis shows birth of Peter H. Loop, shows place of marriage of Jeddiah as Mentz, Cayuga County, NY, shows James place of death, shows Amos' place of death, shows all spouses, shows date and place of death of Phillip, shows Rebecca dying in 1846 instead of 22 JAN 1850 aged 32 recorded by Omer Loop, shows several other of the above dates and places. Cemetery Inscriptions from Africa Cemetery, Orange Twp, Delaware Co., OH: William H. Loop, son of Peter and Mary, d. Jan 7 1854 ae 17 years dau. Anna M. d. May 9, 1870 ae 25y 1m 25d son James d. may 6, 1865, ae 10m 16d [Anna and James may not be Loops, book wasn't clear] Woodville, Ohio, Cemetery Inscriptions. This cemetery is north of Woodville about a mile on Lime Road and is situated between two large limestone quarries. The cemetery is very German. About a third of the stones are written in German, and almost all are for German names. It is a good sized cemetery. To find the Loop stones drive straight in and take the first left after the first large area of stones. The Loop stones are in a row alongside the road on the left shortly after the turn, with their inscriptions facing away from the road. The Brim monument is on the other side of the road from the Loop stones and a couple of rows in. Jediah Loop, died June 4, 1854, aged 58 y 1 m 15 days, Prepare to meet thy God [This stone is broken into three pieces, and is difficult to read. The stone contains a Masonic symbol, crossed carpenter's square and dividers. Next to the stone is a War of 1812 medal marker and an American flag.] Betsey E., Wife of Jediah Loop, died Jan. 19, 1876, aged 75 yrs 3 mos 7ds, She lies in peace, yes sweetly sleeps, her sorrows all are over, with her the storms of life are past, she's found the heavenly shore [Cap of stone says "Our Mother in Heaven"] broken stone, only about 1 inch protruding from ground, nothing readable. Willie H. son of W. H. and S. A. Loop, died Oct. 18, 1864, aged 3 y 3 m, Many bright hopes he ... [remainder unreadable] [for some strange reason this stone has a GAR marker and an American flag beside it. Could this have at one time belonged to the unreadable neighboring stone, or did someone make a mistake?] Peter Loop, Jr., Pvt NY Militia, Rev War, 1766 - 1855 [This stone has a 1776 metal marker and American flag beside it.] George Brim, died Dec 7, 1895 aged 66 y 2 m 17 d Betsey M. Brim, died Mar. 12, 1895 aged 82 years [These two are on a large obelisk] Ethel 1881 - 1894 [This is a nearby small stone, i.e. Ethel Brim] 1830 Census of Johnstown, Montgomery (now Fulton), NY: Henry Loop, 1 male 10-15, 1 male 30-40, 1 female 20-30. Loop Scoop, July, 1989 Joanne Ellis passed along some very interesting information. She obtained a copy of the application submitted to the "Graves Location Project" of the National Society United States Daughters of 1812 concerning the location of Peter H. Loop's grave. The purpose of the application seems to be to provide information to the organization and perhaps to obtain a metal 1812 marker for the grave. The application is dated 1941, and the informant is probably Wayne Dancer, who is listed as a descendant, though the form line for the name of the person filing the data is blank. But the funny thing is that the information given concerning his service seems to be for the Revolutionary War, not the War of 1812. There is mention of the Dutchess County Militia and Albany County Militia, which units had recruits named Peter Loop or Peter Loop, Jr., during the revolution, but no mention is made of the only unit in which Peter H. Loop actually served during the War of 1812, namely Captain Armstrong's company of Col. Brown's 23rd Regiment of Infantry. I think someone was fishing. The application says that descendants have Peter's 1812 discharge papers. Yet Peter himself in an affidavit said he was never given a discharge. The application also says that if the grave is not marked with a stone that the government will provide one and asks if one is desired. No response is given which makes me believe that the stone had already been provided. After all, Wayne Dancer was already a member of the Sons of the American Revolution, and either he or someone else had probably already taken care of that. You will recall that the stone that was erected was a military type stone with the following inscription: Peter Loop, Jr., Pvt NY Militia, Rev War, 1766 - 1855 In the National Archives is a service record for a Peter Loop, Jr., private in Vanderburgh's Regiment of New York Militia, Albany County, dated September of 1778. I believe this is the only record for a Peter Loop, Jr., as a private, and I believe this is the record on which some hopeful descendant based their claim for membership in the SAR or DAR. In the affidavit, part of his application for land bounty for service in the War of 1812, Peter Loop (no "Jr.") says he is 83 years old. The affidavit is dated 30 DEC 1850. So for Peter to be 83, he would have to have been born sometime in 1767, not 1766 as his tombstone says. I think that someone fudged the date of birth by one year so that it might look like he could be almost 13 years old on the day of his supposed enlistment, whereas in fact he had only just turned 11 the previous month. Also, since Peter H. Loop never claimed to have served in the Revolution, though he did claim to have served in the War of 1812, I think we can now close the door on that possibility. But the good news for his descendants is that his father Ensign Henry Loop quite definitely did serve in the Revolutionary War. By the way, Peter H. Loop's service in the War of 1812 is a little bit clouded. In his affidavit, he claims he was left sick along a road in St. Lawrence County, NY, and was reported as dead, and that that is why he never received his discharge. An official investigating his application for land bounty, however, reports that he was listed as having deserted. We'll likely never know what really happened. Joanne also writes concerning the Loop's in Woodville Cemetery: "I'm quite sure the broken stone is Wm H. Loop (son of Jediah Loop who was son of Peter H.) since his son, Willie H. is buried there. The GAR marker probably belongs with the broken stone. Wm H. Loop was born ca 1827 in Cayuga Co., NY and died 31 MAY 1862, Woodville, OH, from typhoid fever. He had been sent home from the Civil War after becoming ill. Wm H. married Sarah Webb who married second Thomas Smith. Sarah Smith died 27 JUL 1901 at Caro, Tuscola Co, MI." Joanne - I think you are quite right that Peter H. lived in Cayuga County in 1813, when he signed up there at Auburn for the War of 1812. So Betsy was most likely born there, since, as you point out, she was born two weeks after his enlistment. The obituary for Jacob Loop, Peter H. Loop's son, has Jacob moving to Cayuga county in 1813. Jacob is most likely the one censused in Cayuga county in 1820 when his father is already in Ohio, and censused again in Wayne county in 1830. The Cass County, Indiana, history says Peter H. Loop's son Henry, born 1793 was a native of Cayuga County, but this is unlikely, as the county wasn't formed until 1799 and Peter H. Loop is living in Washington County in 1800. Also, Henry and his wife Elizabeth Marsh were censused in Johnston, Montgomery County in 1830. The obituary also tells us that Jacob lived in Johnstown, Montgomery County for 7 years prior to 1813, which means that the Peter Loop censused in Montgomery County in 1810 is Peter H. Loop. Concerning the 14 day enlistment of Peter Loop, Jr., in 1778, it was very common during the Revolution for locals to sign up for a single battle or short campaign. In fact, I believe most of the enlistments were like that. 1820 Census of Batavia, Clermont County, Ohio: Peter H. Loop 22120-121101-0300 1830 Census of Perrysburg, Wood County, Ohio: Peter H. Loop 0010300-001120?1 1840 Census of Middletown, Wood County, Ohio: Jediah Loop 1100001-0010011 Moses Decker Jr. 120011-110001 1840 Census of Woodville, Sandusky County, Ohio: George Brim 000001-000010 Peter H. Loop 0000000001 (1 male 70 to 80) 0000000010 (1 female 60-70) Samuel Loop 00001-00010 1850 Census Lake twp, Wood County, Ohio: Philip Loop 40 farmer $250 born NY Abigail M. J. 29 born ME Sarah 11 born OH Emma J. 9 born OH Cyrus 7 born OH Philip 5 born OH George 3 born OH Celia C. 2 born OH Harriet Warner 6/12 born OH ["Warner" could be "W. Carver"] 1850 Census Madison twp, Sandusky, OH, 18 OCT 1850: Jediah Loop 54 farmer $2000 born NY Betsey 50 born VT Wm 24 laborer born NY Mary A. 22 born NY Miriam 11 (male?) born OH Peter H. Loop 83 [unreadable] $2000 born NY George Brim 42 farmer $1500 born England Betsey Brim 36 born NY Jane Brim 9 born OH Walter Brim 6 born OH Emeline Brim 4 born OH George Brim 2 born OH Historical Atlas of Sandusky County, Ohio, 1874: Article on George Brim.